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Hi Lexxi,

No, I never did, because I already paid a couple hundred dollars to get voice training (through George Washington University in Washington, DC) and the app itself already concluded I have a feminine voice.

There is a free sample lesson, and if you liked it, I would risk $20 for the first lesson, but that's just me. The worst thing that happens is you waste twenty bucks, and I really don't think it would be a waste. My one-hour lessons at GWU were $50 each, and that is a fraction of the cost of sessions with a professional voice coach. The transgender voice clinic at GW is cheap because they use grad students, and you are actually part of their training as well. (There is a faculty member supervising the sessions).

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I had never heard of the VoiceUp app, but it sounds interesting. I found a video on YouTube about it, but it doesn't give a lot of information.

 

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This app goes with Apple stuff only. There is a free of cost app in the google play store which is called Voice Pitch Analyzer. It is not a training app, but you can pretty well analyze the pitch of your voice into detail, and the app tells your with a clear graphic, where in the female/male range of pitch you are, and gives you quite a bit o different data. You cannot record your speech, and listen to it. For doing this there are several free programs available on the internet.

Because I don't have Apples around, cause I tend to rather eat them, I cannot say anything about the quality of this training, or compare it with the training I am receiving. I assume that it is good, if it did help Terri.



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If you just want to do voice analysis, there is another free app called Singscope. It gives you a waveform analysis and pitch graph in real time. You can see pitch inflection and replay your recordings. I don't know if there is an Android version, however.

Here is a screenshot:



It's fun to play with, if nothing else.

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If you just want to do voice analysis, there is another free app called Singscope. It gives you a waveform analysis and pitch graph in real time. You can see pitch inflection and replay your recordings. I don't know if there is an Android version, however.

Here is a screenshot:



It's fun to play with, if nothing else.

~Terri
I have something like this on my Win 10 computer, it also records my voice for replay, and I can hear it and see it at the same time. My pathologist is also interested in the db output, and in the 1/2 tunes my voice covers in a normal speech range.
 

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This app goes with Apple stuff only. There is a free of cost app in the google play store which is called Voice Pitch Analyzer. It is not a training app, but you can pretty well analyze the pitch of your voice into detail, and the app tells your with a clear graphic, where in the female/male range of pitch you are, and gives you quite a bit o different data. You cannot record your speech, and listen to it. For doing this there are several free programs available on the internet.

Because I don't have Apples around, cause I tend to rather eat them, I cannot say anything about the quality of this training, or compare it with the training I am receiving. I assume that it is good, if it did help Terri.



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I found in in the Google play store.
Downloaded but haven't looked at it yet.
 

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I also downloaded it and will look at it later when I have more time.
 

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Even ones very own ears can be deceptive! I just did a pitch analysis with the app, while recording myself while reading their text. I have to say that i never was very keen of my voice when it was supposed to be a male voice, and this is the first time that I recorded myself with my female voice.

I had a general average of 213 Hz, with a minimum average of 170 Hz, an a maximum average of 253 Hz. This means that my voice is about in the middle of the female voice range, no question about that.

When I played it back it still sounds to me like the vice i never liked, only now it is the female version of it. I have no idea what i could do to make that voice sound more pleasant to me. I have the pitch, I have the cadence, I have everything I need, but I simply don't like my voice!

I think I will put my voice into a dysphoria generating thing, right along with my oversized ears!


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Hi Lexxi,

No, I never did, because I already paid a couple hundred dollars to get voice training (through George Washington University in Washington, DC) and the app itself already concluded I have a feminine voice.

There is a free sample lesson, and if you liked it, I would risk $20 for the first lesson, but that's just me. The worst thing that happens is you waste twenty bucks, and I really don't think it would be a waste. My one-hour lessons at GWU were $50 each, and that is a fraction of the cost of sessions with a professional voice coach. The transgender voice clinic at GW is cheap because they use grad students, and you are actually part of their training as well. (There is a faculty member supervising the sessions).

With kindness,

Terri
Hi Terri,

Thank you for the answer and the advice. I think you're absolute correct and that I should give it a try. I mean it's only $20...and hey I already learned something just from the sample they provided. I'll let you all know how it works out for me.

By the way those voice lessons you went to sound pretty cool. I'd do something like that too if I weren't so shy. Maybe I'll get the courage up to do it after spending some time with the VoiceUp app.

Thanks again,

Lexxi
 

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gave the app a go last night. Didn't come out so great but wasn't trying too hard. 85% male on the reading, 61% on the free speaking. Tried a little bit more on the free speaking part.

I'll play with it some more.
Was planning to work on my voice while recovering from my surgery.
 

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gave the app a go last night. Didn't come out so great but wasn't trying too hard. 85% male on the reading, 61% on the free speaking. Tried a little bit more on the free speaking part.

I'll play with it some more.
Was planning to work on my voice while recovering from my surgery.
My pathologist is emphasizing the free seaking over any read text. I had to think of standard sentences that I use almost every day, and we worked through those. She is of the opinion we talk way more in a free conversation than we do red texts out loud, and those free sentences are the ones that make us sound male or female.


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Had a quick look at VoiceUp, and will play with it a bit more before purchasing. Let's see how much it improves my starting point!!

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Just got these two. I guess there's hope. Screenshot_20200516-072427_VoiceUp.jpgScreenshot_20200516-072421_VoiceUp.jpg
 

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This is kind of a fun activity. I tried the free voice analysis in VoiceUp. Here is baseline guy mode with no effort to sound female.
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Here is female mode:
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Unfortunately I can't maintain this all day long. My voice starts dropping down the range later in the day as my vocal muscles fatigue. I need to do more exercises and keep my voice in that range consistently instead of switching back and forth. That would help keep me in the right range for longer periods of time.

But it does help me understand why I sometimes get ma'amed at stores and stuff even when I am not trying to sound female. My normal "guy" voice is in androgynous to even very bottom of female range.

No wonder no girls would ever date me until I met my wife. I don't sound male. And my wife turned out to be a closet lesbian.
 

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These statistics are not helpful at all! Nobody dissects a voice into these subgroups! Any older female has low pitch sounds in her speech. What you want to know is if you sound female or sound male, that is the only thing of interest here. I think the Android Voice Pitch Analyzer does a better job herewith, and provides a more understandable graph for where your voice is in the male - female spectrum.

It is also bull to hard write a female voice around 220 Hz. That is a pretty high frequency, and may be Ok for a young woman, but certainly not for most older women. Most of you know how I sound, and my voice modulates between 170 Hz and 255 Hz, while my average is between 210 to 220 Hz. This ii about the voice ability I was born with (after taking my age into account).
I would have had a higher pitch, when I was younger, and i still can talk with Amber in a pitch competition, but it is a pretty hard strain on my voice (the two of us try to talk with cartoon voices once in a while). Any voice pitch that is not natural for you is not sustainable for prolonged use.
You have to wake up in the morning and have the same sounding voice you have when you go to bed at night, it has to be an automatic thing, and cannot be forced. I have to force myself to speak with a low pitch, but after a few words, my throat hurts already, because the home position of my larynx is higher up in my throat.
And that is the first thing you have to be working on, get that larynx up in your throat and keep it there for good.
All these pitch exercises are of no use, itf the larynx can't stay up there. Work on that first.
I will start my classes here very soon!


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It is only general pitch, Linde. There is much more to female speech pattern than pitch. Tone, inflection, parsody and other speech components all add up. But getting a passable pitch is a good first step for transgender women.
 

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It is only general pitch, Linde. There is much more to female speech pattern than pitch. Tone, inflection, parsody and other speech components all add up. But getting a passable pitch is a good first step for transgender women.
Katie, but that pitch you can get reliably only if your larynx is in the right position. Any other way is always very hard on your vocal folds and on you as the speaker. Training the voice box is the first thing, once once that is there, you can work on the sound, by doing the vocal; cord stretching exercises properly. At your level, the speaking is not a big deal and not much helpful, it is just straining your voice. It has to be done right from the base on to be able to be maintained and not hurt you when you speak all day long with the target frequency.
Tone, inflection an projection is something that has to be acquired by observing and copying, the same way young females do. But you have to dump all these male components first (or at the same time). I learned it by hanging around with females only for at least the last 15 or s years, and it feels natural to me.


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Hi All
As I wrote earlier, I am ready to share the medical/scientifically based voice training I received from a Voice Pathologist, who has a doctorate in this field. I am allowed to use all the work sheets she used with me to help all of you to improve your voice. As some of you know, prior to this training I sounded like a rusty old chain saw, and was misgendered on the phone all the time. I am not misgendered anymore now, and have my former vic back for most of the time. I still sound rough sometimes, because I lost my ability to swallow properly to remove mucous from my vocal cords. They are working with me now on teaching me how to properly swallow again.

Anyway, I will do those classes on Skype for the time being. I think each class should consist of 3 to 4 people max, and I would like to put them together very soon.

Please let me know if you are interested in this kind of voice training, by either ending me a message, or leting me know be answering here.


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My favorite voice app is called Voice Analyst. When I got it it cost $9. Well worth it. It is a multi function multi screen app. Check it out. I downloaded it from the Google Play store.

 

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Hi Donica,

I have that one too. Luckily it's free now. I've played around with it a lot. I think I'm going to bite the bullet and buy the first set of lessons from VoiceUp next. The ad for it says that if you practice at it and progress they way they suggest it will take you 30 days to work through the first set. When I do it I'll give updates here.

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