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NicoleT

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Ooooo....Lots of chatter going on. Love the ideas of the numbing agents. Yes Nummit is something my electrolysis tech told me about. She gave me a sample though something else she prefers more. I guess either one can be bought possibly with prescription. I may need to get in touch with my doctor anyway. Sometimes I never know what the hell my insurance will cover. I’ve got to ask her again what the name of the stuff was she recommended.

Apparently the game plan for next Tuesday is .....take some ibuprofen .....wash my face well.....and then apply the numbing agent on my face.... wrapping it with cellophane over it (for about 20 min,).... then proceed with the hour of fun. 💉.....

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Donica

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I find the EMLA cream (2.5% Lidocaine & 2.5% Prilocaine) to be the most effective for me, and it's covered by my provider. I've tried a few others. BLT (Benzocaine, Lidocaine, and Tetracaine) is a compound formula that you can get in almost any dose combination. I'm not sure why but tissue penetration didn't seem to be all that great and was still pretty painful. Maybe a different compound combination will work better? I used 20% 10% and 4% respectively. But you will need a prescription and it's very expensive ($160.00 for 60 grams). There are other OTC creams you can use, as Tonya mentioned above, LMX 4% and 5% Lidocaine works just ok and it's not as expensive as BLT.

When using the EMLA cream, I find it works best if you massage it into your skin about 1-1/2 hours before your session, and then again about a half-hour before, and lastly, apply a thick coat just before your session, covering with cellophane at each application. Remember, YMMV so It's going to be a trial and error to find what works best for you. Good luck.

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KimOct

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I did look at it but it was very expensive, there was only two in town that were really any good. I’m also lucky to find out that I don’t have heavy heavy hair on my body. The hardest part will be the goatee area and then it does get more sparse. Either way it’s just another step in the process. Thank you for the thought.
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My condolences and congratulations on joining the electro club. UGH. I probably got half of what I actually need but I am done.
I am $12,000 into it and make 1/3 of what I used to so that's it. A few thoughts.

1. As others have said OTC lidocaine is a must IMO but slightly better is a prescription of 2.5% lidocaine and 2.5% prilocaine (@TonyaJanelle - thoughts? ) I found that to be marginally better than 4% OTC lidocaine.

2. Take tylenol an hour or so before.

3. Be hydrated - ( for @Moni that means drink water :ROFLMAO: )

4. Icing afterward

5. Follow icing with Tea Tree oil. My electrologist suggested it and it helped.

6. If your person suggests Neosporin - do a spot test first. The mass clearing I did suggested that.. I had a horrific allergic reaction that led to scarring. 10% of people are allergic to Neosporin my doc told me after the nightmare.

99. Well I numbered it 99 because it's cheating. I have a small ongoing prescription of 30 hydrocodone every 60 days for several years. Tonya can vouch this is not much if kept in check. I used to take one before electro - but the other stuff will do.
 

NicoleT

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Lots of good ideas and this is great. I think the EMLA cream is something I need to ask my doctor about. Donica.... I’d like we are going with all the lidocaine applications unfortunately at the time I’m going to be doing it I’m not gonna have very much time between stopping work and starting the process. Half hour tops, so I need to be efficient. Like you said though it is trial and error I’ll get to know what works for me. ( maybe a couple of stiff shots of Jack)

Kim...Fun fun fun...Im joining the club...yes hydration and icing does make a lot of sense. I was fine doing it for five minutes I’m a little more concerned about the hour I have coming up. Nick I’m actually more concerned about what it may look like the following day when I go to work. I guess I’m just gonna find out.

Quick reply for a couple of people.....Tonya...I love your quick reference guide info. So nice to have a pharmacist and staff here.....lol...........Kenna ... I really appreciate your input considering how far you’ve already gone with this. Gives me a lot to contemplate and work through. Linde...... Definitely not trying to Lure people away I just like to see a few people that are over there at SP ....a little more often.........Also thank you for offering to Skype me on a bad night I may take you up on that next time. One more quick thing Linde......I love your new Avatar picture. You look great.

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Moni

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Nicole, one more thought. When I would have a lot of pain from electrologist, I would take my shoes off and rub my feet together and tense them all up. It dissipated the energy I had and gave me some other focus other than the needle on my face. If you end up doing down low, it is interesting. Getting zapped there can make your leg twitch like a frog connected to a battery. Very strange happening and one you can't control.
 

NicoleT

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Poor Kermit......Lol..... Just the thought of the poor Leg twitching Frog....😂😂😂... God what am I getting myself into.

I like the idea of refocusing during a painful moment it’s a great idea. I was actually thinking about it today could I maybe listen to music while its happening...?
would headphones get in the way.?..... (If you haven’t noticed ....I get bored easily.)
Also it might take away the thoughts of.........” here comes the needle...ouch....OK...I’m good....nope..ouch....wait another needle. Ouch” I’d rather be singing inside my head.

So far i’m only going to explore getting hair off of my face. To me it’s the most important spot and the one that’s going to benefit me the most right now. Long as I have money, that’ll be the most importaht thing I can do.
if I run out of money, at least I know that will be done. Obviously as time goes on ....I wouldn’t mind exploring having it done on my chest or back ..........I know I have to do it in the nether regions if I’m ever going to have SRS/GCS. But i’ve got time for now .....before they turn me into a biology experiment.
RRRRRRRRibb....bit.....Ribbit ....Ribbit 🐸

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TonyaJanelle

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thoughts.

1. As others have said OTC lidocaine is a must IMO but slightly better is a prescription of 2.5% lidocaine and 2.5% prilocaine (@TonyaJanelle - thoughts? ) I found that to be marginally better than 4% OTC lidocaine.

2. Take tylenol an hour or so before.

3. Be hydrated - ( for @Moni that means drink water :ROFLMAO: )

4. Icing afterward

5. Follow icing with Tea Tree oil. My electrologist suggested it and it helped.

6. If your person suggests Neosporin - do a spot test first. The mass clearing I did suggested that.. I had a horrific allergic reaction that led to scarring. 10% of people are allergic to Neosporin my doc told me after the nightmare.

99. Well I numbered it 99 because it's cheating. I have a small ongoing prescription of 30 hydrocodone every 60 days for several years. Tonya can vouch this is not much if kept in check. I used to take one before electro - but the other stuff will do.

I agree with Kim on the emla vs lidocaine. Not "oh boy is this great" but it's a bit better. Its worked even better with the occlusion (saran wrap). I stopped doing that after my upper lip was cleared though.

I never tried taking tylenol or ibuprofen before hand but it wouldn't hurt.

I've never had issues with after care. She rubs some kind of soothing lotion on it at the end of the session and that's been good enough for me. Witch hazel was recommended as an after treatment thing.

As far as distraction during the work, my electrologist mounted a TV on her ceiling and I watch TV. Working on the last season of Grace and Frankie right now. Did all but the newest season of Schitts Creek before that.
 

Kenna

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I've never had a problem turning up to work with spotty skin after a heavy electrolysis session; so few people have perfect complexions all the time that people simply tend to not notice. And one hour's worth is a lot less than 4 hours, which is my normal dose. I generally take ibuprofen before each session as it it supposed to help reduce swelling, although I've only noticed a small difference when I miss it. It doesn't seem to have any effect at all on the pain though. Until this week I've managed without numbing cream, but I've discovered that it is definitely worth it for the upper lip; but I wouldn't bother with anywhere else except possibly the lower lip. The longer you can have it on (up to about 2 hours - as per instructions) and covered with cling wrap, the more effective it is.

Nicole, I'd continue to watch the pricing of laser though. Given that one only gets it every 4 to 6 weeks (and I suppose that you could continue to get your electrologist to focus on the lighter hairs in between). Here at least, significant specials are fairly common. A local chain of laser clinics is currently offering 50% discounts, where one can buy multiple sessions ahead. A few years ago I had 10 laser sessions on my full legs. I haven't shaved them in months, although if I look very closely there is a thin scattering of blond hairs still growing that I might shave for next summer, but mostly just for my own satisfaction. That was a total of about A$700, which I bought during one of those specials. I thought that it was pretty good value. I had very few dark hairs on my face, so I didn't bother with laser there.

BTW @Linde , I love your new avatar - you look great!
 

Linde

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I have never taken anything for pain with hair removal, no topical cream and no medication. But I never have more than 30 mins at a time, every 4 to 6 weeks. I really don't even know if I want to continue for this little bit I have. Sahving once a week does not bother me, and my hair is without any color. i just shave for the smooth feeling.

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Donica

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A lovely avatar @Linde. @NicoleT, I do take 2 Tylenol about 45 minutes to an hour before each HNT session. I find that if I let my mind wander, it helps a bit too. Another thing is my electrolysis and I talk for the whole session quite often, which also helps take my mind off the HNT. Nobody knows me like my electrocutioner, not even my hairdresser. I equate HNT to a 4-hour total body isometric workout. :ROFLMAO: Not only am I red and swelling in the area she just worked on, but every muscle in my body aches after each session.
 

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Talking!? I can understand that while working below, but on your face!? Or is that what NHT means? If working on your face, talking would slow things down dramatically as your "electrocutioner" has to insert the probe in to the follicle and hold it relatively steady for a bit. If your face is moving around while you talk, that would be really hard. I can sort of understand it higher on your cheeks but anywhere near your lips would make it virtually impossible. During my sessions I'm not sure if I'm practicing mindfulness or mindlessness, but what ever it is, talking certainly doesn't feature.
 

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My elecrocutionist talks to me all the time and asks questions, have I read this book, or what do I think of that? If I answer she stops, and then asks me something else as she starts again. I tend mostly to grunt so she keeps going. I know she is trying to distract me from the pain, but I also want to get rid of as many hairs per session as possible.

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Allie
 

NicoleT

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The advice has been great everyone.....between my electrolysis tech and all the things I read here. I feel like Im quite ready for this session on Tuesday. ( and a bit nervous) Either great stuff.

Im so relieved right now, my work week is over, I don’t have to go back until Monday and there is Zoom tonight.
😁😁😁 .....

I need it...

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NicoleT

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So it’s Sunday Funday...... I get to be me all day...wait no that’s not true. You see I was thinking about it last night, I was gonna have to get up go to the grocery store, run an errand and then do some more errands before relaxing at home where tonight my son’s gonna have some friends over ......one of which doesn’t know about me so....

it dawned on me I can barely be myself all day. Living like this is just garbage. I can’t just hide. So I said screw it.
guess who went to the grocery store and ran all the errands today.
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No.....she didnt....she......, she,...... She did what?
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Yes she did!!!.....This girl had a great morning.
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Thats right Nicole waved at a few neighbors went to the grocery store and ran errands today. Let’s just say the way it’s going ......my work will be the last to know.

Seriously though what freedom, what greatness. Most of the ones who have been out for a while this seems very trivial. Since the only time I’ve been out full-time as Nicole was a big long weekend with my daughter in her town 2 1/2 hours from here .........this was a pretty big deal today for me.

It may become my new Sunday morning ritual.
I mean why not nobody gave me trouble, I got a lot of Miss or Ma’am’s . Lord knows I’m not the prettiest woman at the store or the skinniest.........but I am woman 👩🏼. Either way good day so far.

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Nicole
 

Linde

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Great Nicole, and cool sunglasses! Your hair is getting nice and long enough, to do some female looking stuff with it!
Keep on going young lady, you have it in you!


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Linde
 

OzGirl

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I knew there would be no stopping you once you got a taste of living as you! It is so liberating, and amazing to be accepted as the real you! Enjoy it Nicole, it doesn’t take that long before you’re leaving the supermarket wondering what you forgot to pick up and it occurs to you that you are actually living as a woman, and grocery shopping is, well, just grocery shopping!

It has been a privilege to see you blossom!

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Allie
 

Donica

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Talking!? I can understand that while working below, but on your face!? Or is that what NHT means? If working on your face, talking would slow things down dramatically as your "electrocutioner" has to insert the probe in to the follicle and hold it relatively steady for a bit. If your face is moving around while you talk, that would be really hard. I can sort of understand it higher on your cheeks but anywhere near your lips would make it virtually impossible. During my sessions I'm not sure if I'm practicing mindfulness or mindlessness, but what ever it is, talking certainly doesn't feature.
Kenna, my electrolysis does all the talking while she works on my face, but when she is working on my bottom, we have conversations that save the world lol.


So it’s Sunday Funday...... I get to be me all day...wait no that’s not true. You see I was thinking about it last night, I was gonna have to get up go to the grocery store, run an errand and then do some more errands before relaxing at home where tonight my son’s gonna have some friends over ......one of which doesn’t know about me so....

it dawned on me I can barely be myself all day. Living like this is just garbage. I can’t just hide. So I said screw it.
guess who went to the grocery store and ran all the errands today.
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No.....she didnt....she......, she,...... She did what?
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Yes she did!!!.....This girl had a great morning.
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Thats right Nicole waved at a few neighbors went to the grocery store and ran errands today. Let’s just say the way it’s going ......my work will be the last to know.

Seriously though what freedom, what greatness. Most of the ones who have been out for a while this seems very trivial. Since the only time I’ve been out full-time as Nicole was a big long weekend with my daughter in her town 2 1/2 hours from here .........this was a pretty big deal today for me.

It may become my new Sunday morning ritual.
I mean why not nobody gave me trouble, I got a lot of Miss or Ma’am’s . Lord knows I’m not the prettiest woman at the store or the skinniest.........but I am woman 👩🏼. Either way good day so far.

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Nicole
Good for you Nicole. My God, we've created a monster brand new woman! Yay!

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Nicole, I was smiling from ear to ear reading your posts today. Our little girl is growing up so fast. ☺So proud of you. Today the grocery store, tomorrow the world!
 

NicoleT

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Thanks everyone!!!......Felt great to just be me.

Great Nicole, and cool sunglasses! Your hair is getting nice and long enough, to do some female looking stuff with it!
Keep on going young lady, you have it in you!


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Linde
Thank you Linde....and yeah big fan of the sunglasses, gotta have my accessories....Lol.... The hair is a work in progress but I am getting to the point I can definitely do more with it. Just takes time Right.

I knew there would be no stopping you once you got a taste of living as you! It is so liberating, and amazing to be accepted as the real you! Enjoy it Nicole, it doesn’t take that long before you’re leaving the supermarket wondering what you forgot to pick up and it occurs to you that you are actually living as a woman, and grocery shopping is, well, just grocery shopping!

It has been a privilege to see you blossom!

Hugs,

Allie
Allie...makes me smile to see you write that. This journey so far seems like it has been so hard. I’m struggling with all of these things that of happened somehow through all of it I found a way to become who I’m supposed to. Heading to Walmart to get groceries today was a little bit nerve racking but just the same extremely freeing. I did I just simply felt like any woman walking down the aisle. I did end up wearing my sunglasses through half the store not realizing but that was a long as it was very sunny when I came in and I was just kind of focused on shopping. Still it was a great experience nobody even knew the difference. I sincerely think this need to become my Sunday morning tradition.

Kenna, my electrolysis does all the talking while she works on my face, but when she is working on my bottom, we have conversations that save the world lol.




Good for you Nicole. My God, we've created a monster brand new woman! Yay!

Hugs!
Donica......I am a monster but a female one. It really is the support here that helps me be strong enough to move forward. Electrolysis.....thank god will just be on my face for now. Little scared of going down there, but I know it’s the future, so....... BTW great Avatar. I like the look.
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Nicole, I was smiling from ear to ear reading your posts today. Our little girl is growing up so fast. ☺So proud of you. Today the grocery store, tomorrow the world!
Moni.......your approval and comments truely mean the world to me. I mean let’s face it, we’re always joking around with each other because you’re extremely funny. My respect for you is extremely high. What you and others who have been there before me have taught me is invaluable. You let me know if I’m doing things right or not. And when I get you saying that you’re proud of me......😢... That really touches me. Thank you very much.

Overall I realize I have a long way to go still and I have a very large Challenge in front of me. I still have to actually go full-time and transition at work that will be the biggest challenge of my life outside of losing my wife. Can’t do it all in one day, it’s all a step-by-step process. I love the days that I make progress.

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Nicole
 
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