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Katie

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This isn't really about voice therapy or surgery, but it's kind of about voice indirectly.

I have noticedately that my "internal voice" or the way that I perceive my thoughts has become female "sounding" over the last several months. My old "internal narrator" voice sounded more like a man, but has shifted to be female.

I suppose it is some kind of psychological thing, and could be related to practicing female voice and speech.

Has anybody else experienced anything like this?
 

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Katie, I believe it is a shift in your thinking. When I tried so hard to be the man society wanted me to be, and working in the testosterone filled truck repair field, my thoughts were much more masculine, they had to be or I would not have survived. When I took over raising my children, I let my maternal side take over and my internal voice changed. I immediately was accepted by other women on their level, and many times they forgot I was male as my thoughts were as theirs. My internal voice lost all its aggressiveness and became nurturing, and it obviously showed externally.

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I never had a male or female inner voice, at least I did not realize any. I am still as assertive as i always was, nothing about that has really changed with me. And I still don't care for little babies. But neither does Amber nor my daughter in law, and they are cis women.

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I don't have an inner voice either. I mean, I think, but it is not in any way as a form of telling it's gender. I recently saw youtube videos on this and there is a name for the lack of internal voice. I'm weird, I also dream in black and white and have Tourette's Syndrome. I do dream as female mostly now, although sometimes still as old me. If I had to guess, I'd say your perspective is changing Katie.
 

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I saw something once that said some people have an inner voice or monolog and some don't. My thought was what about a dialog?

At least my inner voice never misgenders me, which would be the only evidence of it switching from male to female at any point.
 
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I don't have an inner voice either. I mean, I think, but it is not in any way as a form of telling it's gender. I recently saw youtube videos on this and there is a name for the lack of internal voice. I'm weird, I also dream in black and white and have Tourette's Syndrome. I do dream as female mostly now, although sometimes still as old me.
Could it be that all of us who have some kind of screw loose in our head, do not have that inner voice thing? My dreams seem to be of so little importance, that I hardly can remember that I ever dreamed. In those dreams I can remember, I am always female. But i hardly can remember how my male life was, and I need to see pictures of my old self as a gy, to remember how I used to look, and when I see them, I wonder why on earth anybody would have wanted to look like this guy (I am told that i was a handsome looking man, what a crap)

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Or maybe people like me that have this internal voice have a screw loose?
 

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I have an internal voice. It sounds male.
 

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I found this. After seeing it, I think there is probably a continuum of ability. I now feel I have a poor ability to visualize and experience the inner voice but not totally lacking one. It is so weak, I can not really recognize a gender in it. And yes, I do have a screw loose I can picture, I just can't tell you what color it is.
 

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Tis imaging thing works perfectly for me, but my inner voice has absolutely no defined gender (can that voice be intersex?). This could be an indication that I have several screws loose, or even being missing some?

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This inner voice is not really „a voice“ in a psychophysical way, it is more of an inner dialog, much as in a dream, where you can also hear people speaking including modulation of loudness, etc. - This is not for real in the sense that there is someone speaking, but it is a manifestation of your personality or persona and this is the reason why any change in your personality will also manifest itself in your inner dialog including changes in your voice, because your voice is an integral part of your inner self representation.

Having said that, there have been many studies looking at whether visual or auditory imagery elicit the same kinds of tonotopic (auditory) or visu- and retinotopic (visual) activation patters in primary auditory and primary visual cortex structures as actual seeing and hearing - and they DO. What this means is that imagining a red fire engine will elicit a neuronal activation pattern in primary visual cortex that one would expect to see (sic!) if a red fire engine was actually shown and seen. And the same goes for auditory information and it’s characteristic spatial organization in primary auditory cortex called tonotopy.

So, even though I said above that the inner voice technically is not “speaking“, because no vocalization is happening, I did not say that no hearing is being done ... fascinating stuff, that ... :cool:
 

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Fascinating neurology insight, @Marie62 ! I've heard similar things, where people actually practicing and people pretending to practice both end up with similar neuropathways and how our brains take "unknowns" in sensory data and smooth it all with the mortar of imagination.
That may explain a lot of both inner "voice" and perceptive external dialogue with me. I have a "dream" voice, inner verbalizing, often as though I'm talking to someone else. However, the gender of my inner voice has often fit into my subconscious gendering of a situation, often. Sometimes I won't register gender bias, at all, which sometimes applies to my internal perception of myself, like an inner "body". To me, I find that gendering of my self comes with awareness of myself as a perceived element in a situation. Less self-awareness in a situation, the more the experienced situation and others are the focus and my voice goes quiet.
I guess on a broader scale, this could be taken that those without "inner voices" or perceived selves could be more "listening" to others and their environment then to their own thoughts and imagination. Those with "inner voices" could be processing more internal information and have their imagination rigged as a multimedia device to project and process received information, rather than as present observation. Two modes of processing identity while integrating external reality?
 
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