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Pamela, are the 138 in this string "After 54 Months 508 138 0.3 9" pg/ml? If so, it would be a bit high for a maintenance dose, in case you are shooting for this?


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Yes Linde, 138 US refers to my recent BT after 54 months HRT or 14 months post op. It is pg/ml indeed.

My statistical view and my physical and mental wellbeing tells me that this E level is about right for me. I suspect if I were to fall below 400 Intl 109 US, then my physical and mental wellbeing could be impaired somewhat.

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Yes Linde, 138 US refers to my recent BT after 54 months HRT or 14 months post op. It is pg/ml indeed.

My statistical view and my physical and mental wellbeing tells me that this E level is about right for me. I suspect if I were to fall below 400 Intl 109 US, then my physical and mental wellbeing could be impaired somewhat.

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When I switched from injections to jell, I was below 100 for a while, and did not feel any difference. I increased the amount of jell applied, and have to see at which level am currently. My (British educated) doc wants me to be well below 130.


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Hello again Everyone

Please forgive my omission and delay.

Subsequent to my BA Feb 28th and recovery, I had a professional Bra Fitting and the result in UK terms is 38FF, Dress Size 14.

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Hello again Everyone

Please forgive my omission and delay.

Subsequent to my BA Feb 28th and recovery, I had a professional Bra Fitting and the result in UK terms is 38FF, Dress Size 14.

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Wow Pamela! If you can say what size were your implants (in cc's)?? I'm having my fitting consutl next week.

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Mentor High Profile Plus Silicon OVER the muscle - Right 570cc, Left 620cc (to correct my asymmetry).

Good luck with your BA Consultation next week.

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Hello again Everyone

Please forgive my omission and delay.

Subsequent to my BA Feb 28th and recovery, I had a professional Bra Fitting and the result in UK terms is 38FF, Dress Size 14.

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Pamela xx
These are gigantic boobs! I am about as close to the US female average as one can be, 36 DD. Why did you decide for your size, and is it not hard to find fitting tops with that size? My daughter is close to your size, and she has a hard time finding nice tops.


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Linde

My decision on size was based on both how I felt with "dummy" boobs which I tried for a few minutes and based on my Surgeon's advice at Consultation plus necessity to correct assymetry.

No clothes problems encountered as yet but thanks for the advice.

I remain very happy indeed with my new boobs - a good second to GRS.

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My decision on size was based on both how I felt with "dummy" boobs which I tried for a few minutes and based on my Surgeon's advice at Consultation plus necessity to correct assymetry.

No clothes problems encountered as yet but thanks for the advice.

I remain very happy indeed with my new boobs - a good second to GRS.

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Thanks Pamela. I have yet to find a woman with natural grown boobs, who is fully symmetric. My left side is about 1/2 bra size larger than the right (my left foot is a little larger, too).
The main thing is to be happy with your body, because you are the only person who lives inside it.


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Mentor High Profile Plus Silicon OVER the muscle - Right 570cc, Left 620cc (to correct my asymmetry).

Good luck with your BA Consultation next week.

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Pamela

Thanks Pamela,
These are the approximate sizes my surgeon has mooted so far, so I guess our degree of asymmetry is similar (no surprise there!). I will see how my fittings go next week and report!
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Got my bi annual blood test today, and I am a 114.9 pg/ml. Pretty much at the point where I want to be. About double as high as a post menopausal woman on low dose HRT, but not enough to cause any additional risk of DVT or breast cancer (specifically not with me taking progesterone).


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Got my bi annual blood test today, and I am a 114.9 pg/ml or 422 pmol/l Pretty much at the point where I want to be. About double as high as a post menopausal woman on low dose HRT, but not enough to cause any additional risk of DVT or breast cancer (specifically not with me taking progesterone).


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Thank you Linde and I'm pleased you are in the right area for E for the wise reasons you state above.

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43 month level was a surprise at 1800pmol/l ( 490 pg/ml ), though I suspect this is an anomolous reading. It is the first reading of new pellets I had inserted in August, but the same dose as I had previously inserted. My Dr was a little concerned, and asked me to advise my surgeon who was doing my BA the next day, and I did let the surgeon know, but he wasn't worried.

I have another blood test sheduled for the start of November, it will be interesting.....

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Allie, I think that level is downright dangerous. As older women with the genetics of a male, if you continued at that level, you could have a heart problem. My endo is so concerned that he wants me to be in the lower 100's pg/ml which I think is too low, so I'm happy with the high 100s.

I researched this on several web site with recommended dosages for transgender women and every one has <200 as their reccomendation.

If you need a higher level to get the results you want, then you have to resolve that your genetics are not allowing that.

I would not want anything bad to happen to you.

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Allie, I think that level is downright dangerous. As older women with the genetics of a male, if you continued at that level, you could have a heart problem. My endo is so concerned that he wants me to be in the lower 100's pg/ml which I think is too low, so I'm happy with the high 100s.

I researched this on several web site with recommended dosages for transgender women and every one has <200 as their reccomendation.

If you need a higher level to get the results you want, then you have to resolve that your genetics are not allowing that.

I would not want anything bad to happen to you.

Donna
Hi Donna! Granted most US endocrinologist prefer to keep their patients under 200 pg/ml, but just out of curiosity, what were the dates of the recommended dosages data you researched? Here are two recent research documents from the American College of Cardiology on the subject of HRT for older women I think you'll find interesting and informative. The first study was from 2017, and the second study is from 2019.

Hormone Replacement Therapy Associated with Lower Mortality - American College of Cardiology (acc.org)

Menopause Hormone Therapy: What a Cardiologist Needs to Know - American College of Cardiology (acc.org)

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Allie, I think that level is downright dangerous. As older women with the genetics of a male, if you continued at that level, you could have a heart problem. My endo is so concerned that he wants me to be in the lower 100's pg/ml which I think is too low, so I'm happy with the high 100s.

I researched this on several web site with recommended dosages for transgender women and every one has <200 as their reccomendation.

If you need a higher level to get the results you want, then you have to resolve that your genetics are not allowing that.

I would not want anything bad to happen to you.

Donna

Donna, thank you for your concern, but I don’t think the test was accurate. It happens from time to time, and that is why I posted it. I had planned to stop taking biotin 2 weeks before the test, but realised I couldn't drive the week the test was due, so I had to do the test a week earlier, and closer to my biotin intake. This may have affected the result! The follow up test will confirm this. Many doctors are still using the outdated Women’s Health Initiative as their basis for risk levels, but that study was on older synthetic hormones which had higher risks. The modern bioidentical hormones are much safer, and allow for much higher levels. My target E levels are around 300 pg/ml and this same dose was almost keeping me there, so this current reading seems erroneous. My doctor was only concerned that I notify my surgeon for legal reasons, but neither of them felt I was at significant risk!

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My new endocrinologist is a rather young lady who is from and studied in the UK. She recently reduced my estrogen to have me at levels around 15, and reduced my progesterone from 200 mg to 100 mg, and hopes that we can take progesterone out of my hormone cocktail all together. I do not feel any different with the less than half hormone levels. The most concern my endo has is possible breast cancer. I have very high density breast tissue, which means, it is some more in danger to develop cancer, and because of the density ay cancer is way more difficult to detect. I love my boobs pretty well, and am not ready to lose them because of higher levels of sex hormones in my blood.

And I am not a biological male, but rather am considered to be a biological female. The studies Donica copied, are all done with biological females, and are generally not very applicable to biological males.
And we have close to zero knowledge, how female sex hormones work with the endocrine system of biological males. If one does not really need transition levels of hormones anymore, one surly should think it over if it is not a good idea to reduce the hormone intake to create hormone levels that are closer to those of post menopausal women on HRT. We have data for those persons, but none for biological males of a similar age.
As I wrote, I don't feel any negative results with having levels around 110, and with half of the progesterone I used to take. But my intersex condition may make me a lot different that you folks are, but it would make sense to talk with your endos about this.


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Hi Donna! Granted most US endocrinologist prefer to keep their patients under 200 pg/ml, but just out of curiosity, what were the dates of the recommended dosages data you researched? Here are two recent research documents from the American College of Cardiology on the subject of HRT for older women I think you'll find interesting and informative. The first study was from 2017, and the second study is from 2019.

Hormone Replacement Therapy Associated with Lower Mortality - American College of Cardiology (acc.org)

Menopause Hormone Therapy: What a Cardiologist Needs to Know - American College of Cardiology (acc.org)

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Donica
Hi Allie,

I don't watch TR often enough and did not get an email notice of your post to me, that's why I'm so late answering you.

These are great articles for women on HRT, but I don't think they apply to us, as estrogen dosage is very small compared to ours.

My ex is on hormones and her dosage is 0.1 mg per day.

If there are slightly higher cardio risks for women on HRT, with their body used to estrogen for years, we who never had them before and then start at a high level, plus our genetics are Male, we are definitely at risk.

But..........I am willing to take the risk.

Donna

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