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buddhist view on being trans

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  • i have been buddhist since way before i transitioned. when i was a teen i went to a buddhist fair when on holiday run by monks. i bought some things (a set of prayer flags, mala, an om mani stone and an om mani stone necklace) and the monk was so nice and blessed my necklace and me and left me feeling amazing. since i have transitioned i have worried about how i would be seen by him now. i read that disability can be seen as punishment for doing bad things in a past life and i am now seriously ill and very disabled and this worrries me about how the trans aspect of me would be seen. i have a memory of a past life i have had as long as i can remember, in it i am lying in a woodland lying in a bed of moss looking up at the sky through a opening in the trees. this memory makes me very happy and relaxed. before i knew about regeneration i thought it was just a memory but my parents didnt know what i was talking about. i have even been in a woodland (walking our dogs in the woods was a common thing for me and my parents to do and when on holiday we would look for woodland walks) when on holiday that we never had been before but it felt really familiar and safe and i feel like this is where the memory took place
 
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Hi, Sam. I have been a Buddhist for more than 40 years.

Buddhism doesn't have a position on being transgender. Buddhism really doesn't get involved with what people are, only with what they do. It is perfectly possible for a transgender person to follow all the precepts, such as not killing, not stealing, not lying, not engaging in sexual misconduct, and not consuming intoxicants, just as it is possible to break them.

The basic rule of conduct is to avoid as much as possible causing harm to others, and to help them if possible. Being trans has nothing to do with that. You can be trans and e helpful to others, which is good, or you can be trans and hut others, which is bad. The being trans part has nothing to do with the outcome.

It is possible that bad things that happen in this life are a result of bad things we have done in a previous life. But we have no way of knowing for sure, and no way to find out. The Buddha taught that such speculations are futile. The lessons of karma are (1) that stuff might happen to us that we cannot explain and just have to accept, and (2) that what matters are the actions that we choose to do in the here-and-now.
 

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Hi, Sam. I have been a Buddhist for more than 40 years.

Buddhism doesn't have a position on being transgender. Buddhism really doesn't get involved with what people are, only with what they do. It is perfectly possible for a transgender person to follow all the precepts, such as not killing, not stealing, not lying, not engaging in sexual misconduct, and not consuming intoxicants, just as it is possible to break them.

The basic rule of conduct is to avoid as much as possible causing harm to others, and to help them if possible. Being trans has nothing to do with that. You can be trans and e helpful to others, which is good, or you can be trans and hut others, which is bad. The being trans part has nothing to do with the outcome.

It is possible that bad things that happen in this life are a result of bad things we have done in a previous life. But we have no way of knowing for sure, and no way to find out. The Buddha taught that such speculations are futile. The lessons of karma are (1) that stuff might happen to us that we cannot explain and just have to accept, and (2) that what matters are the actions that we choose to do in the here-and-now.

I do not follow any belief, but I do seem to follow all the things Kathy has listed including the lessons of karma.

Hugs,

Allie
 

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Hi, Sam. I have been a Buddhist for more than 40 years.

Buddhism doesn't have a position on being transgender. Buddhism really doesn't get involved with what people are, only with what they do. It is perfectly possible for a transgender person to follow all the precepts, such as not killing, not stealing, not lying, not engaging in sexual misconduct, and not consuming intoxicants, just as it is possible to break them.

The basic rule of conduct is to avoid as much as possible causing harm to others, and to help them if possible. Being trans has nothing to do with that. You can be trans and e helpful to others, which is good, or you can be trans and hut others, which is bad. The being trans part has nothing to do with the outcome.

It is possible that bad things that happen in this life are a result of bad things we have done in a previous life. But we have no way of knowing for sure, and no way to find out. The Buddha taught that such speculations are futile. The lessons of karma are (1) that stuff might happen to us that we cannot explain and just have to accept, and (2) that what matters are the actions that we choose to do in the here-and-now.
thats good to hear
 

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Hi, Sam. I have been a Buddhist for more than 40 years.

Buddhism doesn't have a position on being transgender.

It is possible that bad things that happen in this life are a result of bad things we have done in a previous life. But we have no way of knowing for sure, and no way to find out. The Buddha taught that such speculations are futile. The lessons of karma are (1) that stuff might happen to us that we cannot explain and just have to accept, and (2) that what matters are the actions that we choose to do in the here-and-now.
Kathy

I suppose I am a lapsed Catholic in that I attend Church occasionally - perhaps 4 times a year - but live a moral life.

However Buddhism and Hinduism are the only religions where we may have some proof or evidence; other religions rely entirely on faith and good works. Certainly I consider the possibility of reincarnation as envisaged in Buddhism and Hinduism.

I have considered 2 separate aspects in connection with Transgender and Reincarnation.

1. I may have been born trans as a punishment for sins committed in a previous life (either my last one or two or three or four before) and you seem to accept the possibility of this but we cannot verify one way or the other.
2. I may have been born a transgirl as I was a girl in my last life and have carried forward to this life my identity and particular feminine traits.

As a Buddhist, may I respectfully ask if there could be any foundation in my hypotheses please? Thanking you.

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Pamela xx
 

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As a medical scientist, and a rational, logical thinking person, I have difficulties accepting this reborn belief.
Who or what decides that I am reborn as what?
If this entity decides that I should be reborn with problems as a penalty for some previous life, is this not a very cruel deity?
Penalizing me for somthing I had no influence on, and I cannot go back to correct it?
I sure would not want to be part of such a belief system that purposely sets me up for pain and failure the day I was born.

I would prefer a system that praises me for a good life I lived, and brings me to some kind of heaven after I died, like it is the case with the biblical religions.

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Kathy

I suppose I am a lapsed Catholic in that I attend Church occasionally - perhaps 4 times a year - but live a moral life.

However Buddhism and Hinduism are the only religions where we may have some proof or evidence; other religions rely entirely on faith and good works. Certainly I consider the possibility of reincarnation as envisaged in Buddhism and Hinduism.

I have considered 2 separate aspects in connection with Transgender and Reincarnation.

1. I may have been born trans as a punishment for sins committed in a previous life (either my last one or two or three or four before) and you seem to accept the possibility of this but we cannot verify one way or the other.
2. I may have been born a transgirl as I was a girl in my last life and have carried forward to this life my identity and particular feminine traits.

As a Buddhist, may I respectfully ask if there could be any foundation in my hypotheses please? Thanking you.

Hugs

Pamela xx

Hi, Pamela.

In the Buddhist view of rebirth, identities do not carry forward. It is a key point in Buddhist philosophy that identities have no fundamental existence. So any feminine traits you may have had in a previous life are simply gone when that life ends. Only the consequences of actions carry forward.

Rebirth in one form or another is neither reward nor punishment. And of course, whether a circumstance is good or bad depends on arbitrary labelling in this life: whether you are happy or unhappy with it.

It is conceivable that something you did in a previous life caused you to be born transgender. Not as reward or punishment, but simply as cause and effect, just as light from a light bulb isn't a "reward" for flipping the switch. There is no possibility of getting evidence one way or the other, so the question is unanswerable.

As a medical scientist, and a rational, logical thinking person, I have difficulties accepting this reborn belief.
Who or what decides that I am reborn as what?
If this entity decides that I should be reborn with problems as a penalty for some previous life, is this not a very cruel deity?
Penalizing me for somthing I had no influence on, and I cannot go back to correct it?
I sure would not want to be part of such a belief system that purposely sets me up for pain and failure the day I was born.

I would prefer a system that praises me for a good life I lived, and brings me to some kind of heaven after I died, like it is the case with the biblical religions.

Hugs
Linde

In Buddhism, there is no deity, no reward, no punishment. The whole point of the teachings on karma is that there is no one "else" to blame or credit. There is just what you do, and the consequences of those actions.

Your last sentence is true in Buddhism. If you live your life well, and especially if you help others, the consequences will indeed be good, even into future lives. Of course, the converse applies equally. If you live your life dealing out cruelty and anger towards others, the consequences will be bad.

You can't have it both ways. If you want the good consequences as in your last paragraph, you can't reject the bad consequences as in your first paragraph, or blame them on some external deity.

Consequences are what they are, not inherently good or bad. You like them or you dislike them. It behooves you to arrange for consequences that you will like, by choosing carefully what you do.

Regards,
Kathy
 

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@KathyLauren , thanks for explaining this more acyratly; but is that not the same with the biblical religions? When one does bad, it is a sin, and one will be penalized, and if one lived a good life, one has a chance to get to heaven.
Just the used terminology is different.
As I said, for me as a scientist and a rational thinking person, it is difficult to understand any of such belief.

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@KathyLauren , thanks for explaining this more acyratly; but is that not the same with the biblical religions? When one does bad, it is a sin, and one will be penalized, and if one lived a good life, one has a chance to get to heaven.
Just the used terminology is different.
As I said, for me as a scientist and a rational thinking person, it is difficult to understand any of such belief.

Hugs
Linde

The major differences are that, in biblical religions, there is a judge who mediates reward and punishment, and that heaven or hell are permanent. In Buddhism, there is no judge, only your own actions, and the results are not permanent. Even if hell feels like it lasts forever, it doesn't; you will eventually get out. Same with heaven, of course, it doesn't last forever.

Buddhists don't consider that a desirable arrangement. Actual progress involves working to get out of that system altogether.

I am a scientist and reasonably rational, and I don't consider there to be any conflict between science/rationality and Buddhist teachings. We do accept some things without what a scientist would consider adequate evidence, but there is nothing contradictory.
 

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Hi, Sam. I have been a Buddhist for more than 40 years.

Buddhism doesn't have a position on being transgender. Buddhism really doesn't get involved with what people are, only with what they do. It is perfectly possible for a transgender person to follow all the precepts, such as not killing, not stealing, not lying, not engaging in sexual misconduct, and not consuming intoxicants, just as it is possible to break them.

The basic rule of conduct is to avoid as much as possible causing harm to others, and to help them if possible. Being trans has nothing to do with that. You can be trans and e helpful to others, which is good, or you can be trans and hut others, which is bad. The being trans part has nothing to do with the outcome.

It is possible that bad things that happen in this life are a result of bad things we have done in a previous life. But we have no way of knowing for sure, and no way to find out. The Buddha taught that such speculations are futile. The lessons of karma are (1) that stuff might happen to us that we cannot explain and just have to accept, and (2) that what matters are the actions that we choose to do in the here-and-now.
Beautifully said KathyLauren. I always say that karma is far too complex for our brains to grasp. Just be kind and meditate. It’s the best we can do.
 

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  • i have been buddhist since way before i transitioned. when i was a teen i went to a buddhist fair when on holiday run by monks. i bought some things (a set of prayer flags, mala, an om mani stone and an om mani stone necklace) and the monk was so nice and blessed my necklace and me and left me feeling amazing. since i have transitioned i have worried about how i would be seen by him now. i read that disability can be seen as punishment for doing bad things in a past life and i am now seriously ill and very disabled and this worrries me about how the trans aspect of me would be seen. i have a memory of a past life i have had as long as i can remember, in it i am lying in a woodland lying in a bed of moss looking up at the sky through a opening in the trees. this memory makes me very happy and relaxed. before i knew about regeneration i thought it was just a memory but my parents didnt know what i was talking about. i have even been in a woodland (walking our dogs in the woods was a common thing for me and my parents to do and when on holiday we would look for woodland walks) when on holiday that we never had been before but it felt really familiar and safe and i feel like this is where the memory took place
I remember I asked a monk “ do you celebrate Christmas?” He replied “ we celebrate anything that makes people happy” I am absolutely sure they would support your inner truth
I am a Taoist. My statue in the bathroom is the sitting big fat monk.
you can be a nice person and eat cake
 
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